394/395 – Tucker Max: Speak Your Truth or Be Silenced [Part 1 + Part 2]

20 years ago, Tucker Max emailed me for advice. I told him to quit his job.

And he did.

Fast forward.

15 years later Tucker helped me launch “Choose Yourself” (my first self-published book). Now he does this full time. His company, Scribe Media, makes it easy for people to write and publish their book.

And I’m a strong beleiver that everyone has a book inside them. So I asked Tucker how it works.

He said, “You come to us with just your idea. And then we have a whole interview process. And we do all the work. It’s kind of like ghostwriting, but it’s not ghostwriting because ghostwriting is when someone else is writing their idea of your book. This is a full interview process. It’s your ideas in your words and your voice.”

And you keep the content. Unlike in traditional publishing where they take 80-90% of revenue.

That’s why Nassim Taleb (author of “AntiFragile” and “Black Swan”) is publishing his next two books with Scribe Media. Because it’s critical to own your content. 

Publishing is changing. Media is changing. 

Look at YouTube, Instagram TV, Facebook Watch. Anyone can start a TV show.

And you don’t need a bunch of “yes’s” to do what you want.

You can just do it. But then people don’t. 

Because they don’t know how. They don’t know what to write about or talk about. They don’t know if anyone will care.

And the truth is they won’t.

“No one cares about you. And no one cares about your book,” Tucker said. “No one. They only care about themselves and what your book will do for them. Why would someone read something that’s not about them?”

So I had him walk me through this.

“The best books are positioned for the reader,” he said. “But the actual book itself has tons of your own stories in it.”

That’s how I wrote “Choose Yourself.” I wanted to write the book my younger self needed to read.

Tucker wrote the book that would make his friends laugh. He didn’t think his stories would be funny to anyone outside of his friends.

And he was wrong. He sold 3 million copies of “I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell.”

“My stuff blew up because all I did was stand up and use my real name and tell my real stories about my real life. And I get why people are afraid,” he said. “But then you gotta ask yourself, ‘Am I going to speak my truth or am I going to be silenced?’”


Every time Tucker comes on the podcast, he’s smarter. He’s been on six times. (I think that’s the record.)

For some reason, he kept telling me “I don’t think you understand.”

“Wait, why am I always wrong?”

Then he’d tell me.

Here are six things Tucker Max taught me on his sixth appearance on “The James Altucher Show.”

1. “People don’t want to hear the truth if it doesn’t reinforce their identity.”

He told me an old fable about an emperor. You might know it. But if you do, you probably heard the wrong ending.

A lot of old fables are rewritten for modern days to be “nice”.

So the fable Tucker told me goes like this…

A scammer convinces the emperor to wear “an invisible suit.” He’s naked. But he believes he’s wearing this magical suit that only the smartest people can see.

He wants to be smart. So he says he can see it.

Then the Emperor throws a parade. He’s fully naked. No one wants to call him out because they’re afraid of looking stupid.

So they all lie and pretend they see it.

Finally, a kid shouts out the truth. “He’s not wearing any clothes!”

And they kill him.

In the new version, everyone snaps out of the illusion. But in the old version, the child is viciously murdered by a bunch of deranged adults.

“No one wants to face this or talk about this or think about this,” Tucker said. “For almost everyone, once they lock in their identity, there is no fact that will ever shift them off that identity. Ever. And they will literally ignore things, clear as day, right in front of their face. Even things that threaten their lives if it threatens their identity. That is the way humans are designed. It takes a transcendent soul to be able to even broach that a little bit and think a little bit independently, much less transcend identity.”

I don’t have some action item here. I just like thinking about this. Maybe I’ll make an idea list: “10 Ideas I Could be Totally Wrong About.”

 

2. “No adult has it figured out and they’re all f—ing lying.”

This one is sad. And it’s a relief.

 

3. Get a small “sphere of caring”.

I’m constantly afraid to check comments online. And if someone shits on my living floor, I’m deleting it.

So Tucker was giving me advice. Because his sphere of caring is really tight.

“For most people, it’s very large. It encompasses so many ‘they’ and ‘them.’ And I ask people, ‘Who is they? Define they.’ And most people can’t even define that. If you do get them to define it, they’ll say things like, ‘Well, society.’ Or, ‘Well, my friends.’”

And Tucker just gets more and more specific.

“‘What friends?’ You dive down and eventually when you get to it at the core, it’s parents. You get that a lot. ‘What will my mom think?’”

That’s when Tucker says, “One: whose life are you living? Yours or hers? And two: if your mom doesn’t love you for expressing who you truly are, I gotta wonder about certain aspects of that relationship.”

When you listen to the podcast, you see that Tucker has a lot of points:

  1. Don’t give people who don’t matter permission to dictate your life
  2. Your idea of what other people think of you is probably wrong or at least mildly misconstrued
  3. Your idea of what people want you do is probably wrong
  4. What people tell you they want could also be untrue…

Then he gets into the fact that some people don’t want to break out of the chains. They want the excuses because they keep them safe.

And it’s really up to you if you want to be “safe” or free.

 

4.”Facts are irrelevant in tribalism.”

I don’t watch the news. But I know what team MSNBC plays for. And I know what team FOX plays for.

And you can see this everywhere. No just left versus right. But team versus team.

“Think about this,” Tucker said. “We grew up when Soviet Russia still existed and was an enemy. In that time in American history, the Soviets were ‘the other team.’ And America was our team. And nothing they did could be right. And everything we did was right. Go look at what people wrote at the time. It will blow your f—ing mind.”

It goes back to identity. How you identify is how you think.

“There are a hundred years of research on this,” Tucker said. “And there’s a great book on this called, ‘The Elephant in The Brain.’ It’s the most mind-bending book you will probably read in the last five or 10 years. It is mind-bending.”

 

5. “If you don’t care about the problem you won’t succeed.”

“I want to make a million dollars” is a bad reason to start a business. That’s not a mission.

A mission is this:

When Tucker says, “There are so many people who have so much brilliance in their heads who will never get it out… unless it’s very easy for them. That’s literally why our company exists. That’s why we call it Scribe, because Socrates was a brilliant, genius man, but no one would know who he was if it wasn’t for his scribe.”

 

6. “Everything mass and everything scale is breaking up.”

TV networks used to only compete with other TV networks.

Now they’re in competition with every single person online. Everything is saturated. There’s more content being made today than ever before.

“We’re going into a world where you can become local again. Where you can be small scale, but still enjoy so many of the benefits of mass scale production. The days of mass are gone. And you will see lots and lots more of niche and niche and niche and niche, which is fine. That’s the way humans work. So it’s better. ”

“But what if someone listening to this is disappointed and they want to be mass? What should they do?”

“It depends on the goal. If you want to be mass because you want to support yourself doing your art, that is now easier than it’s ever been and it’s only going to get easier. If you want to become mass because you want to fill your empty soul with a bunch of people staring at you, those days are over and you’re f—ed.”

Six is a short list. Tucker and I talked for two hours. And I’m breaking up the conversation into smaller clips.

I try to do this will all my podcasts now. (I’ll always release the full episode, too.)

But I feel the content is so good that it shouldn’t be missed. And oftentimes, people stop listening to a show when the car ride or train stops.

So you can listen to the full episode. Or check out the small clips on my YouTube channel.

Links and Resources

Scribe Media – scribemedia.com

Tucker’s series of articles “Asshole to CEO

“I Hope They Serve Beer In Hell” by Tucker Max

“Assholes Finish First” by Tucker Max

“Hilarity Ensues” by Tucker Max

“Sloppy Seconds: The Tucker Max Leftovers” by Tucker Max

Tuckermax.com

Follow Tucker on Facebook + Twitter

 

Also Mentioned:

Billions

Rounders

My interview with Brian Koppleman

Hunter S. Thompson author of “Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas”

Nassim Taleb author of “Antifragile: Things That Gain from Disorder”

My interview with Nassim Taleb

Jordan Peterson author of “12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos” 

My interview with Jordan Peterson

The four great titans of psychological thought:
1. William James
2. Sigmund Freud
3. Carl Jung
4. Alfred Adler

“The Courage to Be Disliked: The Japanese Phenomenon That Shows You How to Change Your Life and Achieve Real Happiness” by Fumitake Koga and Ichiro Kishimi

Tall Poppy Syndrome

“The Last Black Unicorn” by Tiffany Haddish

My interview with Tifanny Haddish 

“Linchpin: Are You Indispensable?” by Seth Godin

Eric Weinstein

Sarah Jeong 

Candice Owens

“The Elephant in the Brain: Hidden Motives in Everyday Life” by Robin Hanson and Kevin Simler

JT Mccormick – CEO of scribe media

Alex Jones

Karl Marx

 

 

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  • Pat Sonti

    While I enjoy all your posts, this one knocks the ball out of the stadium. The best. I’m working on a minor in Film Studies. The wisdom of this post squares neatly with what we call “reception” studies.

    The writer operates under a belief that people are genuinely interested in reading what they want to say. It is mostly an illusion. A necessary illusion, though. Needed to complete the work.

    The reality is far more harsh. Hence this post ought to be read. Digested. Accepted.

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  • Matt Hall

    Can someone tell me the title of the book Tucker Max mentioned where the author, I believe her first name was ‘Anita,’ was an IT person who became a sales trainer?

    Many thanks!

  • amiedelisa

    Hey James (and Tucker) this podcast was EPIC. You are spot on about Jordan B. Peterson, Tribes, Media, all such good good stuff. We live in the most interesting times. It helps to hear deep intelligent conversation between people, it makes me feel there is hope, truly. Thank you for showing up and being vulnerable and honest.

  • James Buechler

    Didn’t Tucker Max write a book exposing all the sexual habits of his beauty queen girlfriend?